Michael Owen

[Mack]

Neida! Han skulle ikke selge Woody heller.

[geordie-olav]

Selvfølgelig vil Newcastle beholde Owen! Hvilken klubb ville ikke det? Problemet er jo hva Owen ønsker selv.

[Doffi]

øy mr.negativ!

[MortenM]

Sidan denne topicen handlar om Owen *kremt!* så lurte eg på om nokon har hørt noko om han er tilbake i full trening. Håper på at han får eit innhopp mot WBA, sidan eg då vil vere på St. James'!

[Joakim]

Jeg synes jeg leste i løpet av påsken at St. Michael var tilbake i full trening, men jeg vet ikke noe mer om det.

[Kristoffer]

Man håper han får et innhopp mot Wankers Banging Anal.

[Joakim]

Man håper han får et innhopp mot Wankers Banging Anal.

Er det noe galt med WBA, egentlig? Jeg kan ikke se at den klubben har gjort oss noe vondt noen gang. Og deres manager er heller ikke det verste som finnes. Selv om han har spilt for manshitter i en årrekke og har vært manager for Middlesbjørg.

[Agurksaft]

Eg heller har ikkje noko anna i mot WBA, anna enn at dei tidlegare 1keeperen deiras Russel Hoult ( kvar er han no ) truleg er den dårligaste keeperen i heile Europa som får betalt over 500 000 kr i året for å spela fotball.

[Kristoffer]

Var bare et stikk av elendig humor fra min side.

[Tønsberg]

Agurksaft skrev:Eg heller har ikkje noko anna i mot WBA, anna enn at dei tidlegare 1keeperen deiras Russel Hoult ( kvar er han no ) truleg er den dårligaste keeperen i heile Europa som får betalt over 500 000 kr i året for å spela fotball.

Krmph. Det er en som er dårligere det er kevin Pressman. Jeg fikk latterkrampe da han sto i mål mot newcastle. Da tapte sheffield W 8-0.

[Joakim]

Det blir feil å si at Kevin Pressman er en talentløs keeper. Han har spilt Premiership-fotball i mange år, og er en av de mest rutinerte sisteskansene i ligaen. Og for et lite lag som WBA er nok Pressman noe av de bedre de kan få tak i.
8-0 var ikke bare Pressmans feil, det var Sheff. Wed som var altfor dårlig til å hamle opp med våre helter.

[chickenman]

Det blir feil å si at Kevin Pressman er en talentløs keeper. Han har spilt Premiership-fotball i mange år, og er en av de mest rutinerte sisteskansene i ligaen. Og for et lite lag som WBA er nok Pressman noe av de bedre de kan få tak i.
8-0 var ikke bare Pressmans feil, det var Sheff. Wed som var altfor dårlig til å hamle opp med våre helter.

Godt sagt Joakim! Til tross for en vekt som antagelig lå over gjennomsnittet for keepere den gangen var Pressman langt fra den dårligste keeperen i PL da!

[Svenno]

Jeg legger inn et utdrag fra koptalkinsider.. Dette er en kar som har spist middag og hatt et intervju med Michael Owen:

"ok i had planned to write a beautifully articulate, nostalgic and yet informative piece about last nights dinner with michael owen but im snowed in work and i want to report back to you all, so (thankfully, im sure youll think) i'll trim it down. By the way, i am a huge michael owen fan and want him back at anfield so i didnt go for hard line interrogating or offer any kind of sneering contempt for his actions, but i thanked him for what he did at liverpool and the memories he provided and expressed a hope that he would come home.

he was extremely friendly and gracious, signed anything, posed for photos and completely charmed the entire room. he was painfully shy at first. i was the first one to spot him and make a bee-line to him and he could barely look me in the eye and after a few questions about his foot he just didnt seem to want to talk to me, so i sloped off feeling hugely embarrased and self conscious. once he was in a larger group he warmed noticeably and we had a longer and more two sided conversation both one to one (well with his agent chipping in too) and in the more formal Q and A later on. So to be honest i was completely chuffed at how it went.

SO the goss.......

First the second hand goss that was passed on to me by the organisers who had done a similar event last week at st james park. that had gone one much longer as he didnt have to get his helicopter home like he did last night (london - newcastle by copter 1hr 10 and lands literally in his back garden). At that bash theyd been really surprised at his honesty. the gist was that he would definitely come back to liverpool, he felt brazil were favourites for world cup and he was finding it a struggle to mentally get used to running with a pin in his foot. his wife louise had been there and had been really charming. seemed to imply that posh was VERY different to her. nothing then really that new. oh, and he was really hurt by his reception at anfield.

in the first awkward chat about his foot he said he could start on saturday (sunday?) if he had to but why risk it. he's now sprinting and doing everything. he never mentioned to me the mental issue with the pin, he said he was used to it now.

later when i recovered from the initial embrassment and fear he'd now try and avoid me all night, i asked him my planned question about whether he felt he could fit into benitez's style of play as it didnt always seem to match his prefered style. he gave the most adamant answer i heard him give all night. he didnt pause and said "Definitely. defintely. you adapt." he had no doubt at all so i was pleased with that reply. another liverpool fan asked if he thought wed see the best of moro next season and he gave his second most adamant answer of the night - "no" and the further intimation was that he'd be off next season. id mentioned that i thought wed be closer to chelsea this season if wed had a finisher like michael in the team. the aenct definitely agreed and he subtly indicated that he thought that too.

i asked if he was bored taking the helicopter to work (ie fancy coming home) and he didnt get it.

there was a debate about should gerrard or lampard play in the england team, assuming we needed a holding player and assuming stevie isnt better than anyone else would be in that role, and he agreed that it made sense for gerrard to play as the two of them have played together since they were 9 so surely its best to play to the main strikers strengths by using the man who knows how to find him best. hes also playing better than lampard now anyway.

at the q and a session i asked for a two parter: first i asked if there was a problem with his relationship with rafa in that liverpool missed out 2 transfers involving the pair of them and the fact that owens book seemed to imply he was a bit put out by rafa focusing on stevie on his trip to the england camp and that hed made no mention of discontent at liverpool in the book which must have literally been finished just before he left liverpool. the second part was could he then shed light on what happened on each transfer.

now i know some of you will debate if his answer is true, thats not for me to say as im not connected, but this is what he said. first of all, absoutely no problem with his relationship with rafa at all. another vehement answer. second he claimed that madrid came out of the blue, his agent called him with the news and faced with what could be a once in a lifetime chance to play at a club like madrid and experience life overseas he went for it but was almost as surpised as anyone. he listed off the names of the players in that side and basically said its hard not to be excited about having the experience of playing with them. as for newcastle he said he wanted to go to liverpool, felt he was honest and made it perfectly clear that was his choice. he said newcastle just kept trumping liverpool's offer like an auction. liverpool went £8m, newcastle went £10m. pool went £10m, Newcastle went £12m. Liverpool went £12, Newcastle went £15m. so to me the imlplication was that liverpool werent half hearted - they went back several times. newcastle were just on a trophy hunt and threw money at it. he said the clock was running down and he did have to think about the world cup and in the end that was just how it went. basically transfers are tricky things and events can make them go either way. i tried to sneak in a cheeky third part and say "so shall i have a flutter on your coming home" and he smiled, winked and said "you had your two parts", which got a round of applause.

what else? ummmm the agent said stevie was really really happy, it was all going really well for him. he felt - surprise - that agents had a bad rep, it is not in an agents interest to force deals on players because you can lose their trust and then youre screwed.

michael defended his scoring record in madrid and bemoaned the fact that having been on the bench so much he had to leave madrid then have a lot of striker injuries.

then the last liverpool related news i can remember (i ll throw in more if i remember) was someone asked him who he supported as he was supposed to be an evertonian until he was 11. he said his dad (who was downstairs throughout but too shy to show his face) was an everton player but supported liverpool and hed initially anyway had been kind of an evertonian cos of his dad but soon became red. he says liverpool are in his heart, they are the club he supports and thats that. he was there in instanbul as a fan.

his best memory is the fa cup final. he was asked if hed swap it to have played at instanbul. he said he wouldnt swap to have simply played if it meant they didnt win. but he implied that of course you want the CL.

he was asked if he could only have one of winning the world cup, having a horse that won the grand national or winning the open, what would he chose? he said the world cup, big round of applause and then with good timing said "now if youd said the epsom derby...."

so i guess nothing revelatory other than he clearly thinks he could play with benitez, has no problems with him and would love to play with liverpool again. oh yes, the previous week he apparently said that he'd probably give newcastle another season and they were offering to put him up on shearers pedastal. now obviously if liverpool come in for him that could easily change.

what i'll take away from it is that he is a really decent, down to earth guy and clearly loves liverpool and that if it wasnt for the murkey world of transfers hed probably be back in red and who knows, one day he might be. whatever people say about the circumstances of him leaving and not coming back, i personally think the claims that he maliciously and intentionally screwed liverpool are simplistic. im more than happy to give him the benefit of the doubt. lifes to short to be bitter. leave that to everton.

oh, and im worried about his foot for the world cup. i didnt feel inspired with confidence in his fitness. svens setting up some b games for all the crocks.

hope that was worth the effort for you guys."
mev

[André S]

Hva er dette for noe piss Svenno???

Owen kjente at alt ikke var som det skulle i foten i går og skal til undersøkleser i dag...

[Svenno]

Se datoen for innlegget.. Det med foten var en subjektiv mening fra personen som intervjuet Owen. Jeg liker forresten ikke at han driver og pendler, blant annet.. Håper han er ærlig når han sier vil bli neste sesong, men det er vel ikke tvil om at han går dersom Liverpool vil ha ham! Kan vel heller ikke klandre ham for det, det er tross alt "hans" klubb - på tilnærmet samme måte som Newcastle er for Shearer.