Transfersommeren 2011

[Joakim]

Llambarse kommer med en plausibel forklaring, men jeg forbeholder meg retten til å være dypt uenig med han.

[17Parker]

Parker: Hva skulle Llambas realistisk sagt for at du hadde sett deg fornøyd?

Beklagelse. Innrømmet at klubben har feilet. Gjort det klart at en spiss vil bli kjøpt i januar.

I stedet får vi servert skryt av de signeringene vi har gjort, og "vi gjorde vårt beste".

[Hughie]

Poenget er at det faktisk er slik situasjonen er. All tomsnakket utenom er totalt unødvendig.

Ja du skal få mene det, men det er andre som mener at det går flere veier til Rom. Jeg tror det kan finnes noe som ligger i grunnen for at denne viljen til å bruke mer penger ikke er tilstede. At du mener jeg ikke kan diskutere det fordi du mener det ikke er det får så være. For meg blir det på nivå med at jeg skulle si til deg at du ikke kan diskutere grunner til at vi tapte en kamp fordi jeg erklærer at vi tapte fordi vi slapp inn flere mål enn vi scorte.

Jeg gidder ikke å legge noe mer i dette nå, siden du tydligvis har funnet det eneste rette svaret som jeg kan få lov til å ha og du insisterer på denne runddansen.

[Juma]

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,20876_7144133,00.html

Galatasaray bid for  Carlton Cole


Håper noen tyrkere kommer og tar Alan Smith i samme slengen

[Kristoffer]

So what does this tell us? Well to be honest it?s not a lot different to what fans have been saying anyway. I?ve not heard many people slag off the new signings and most recognise that they could turn out to be very good for us. Fair play on that one.

It?s the bit about trying for the second striker that gets me. It strikes me that the board don?t really ?try? that much at all, which gets hidden behind this current business model where the best interests of the club are, apparently, at heart.

The bit about not making knee-jerk decisions also made me chuckle. Like sacking Chris Hughton wasn?t a knee-jerk reaction. Like bidding for Charles N?Zogbia, Kieron Richardson and Bryan Ruiz wasn?t knee-jerk. Like letting last seasons Player of the Season leave for absolutely nothing wasn?t knee-jerk. Like only selling away tickets to people who pay £25 for a membership after the Darlington fiasco wasn?t knee-jerk.

It seems that there have been plenty of of knee-jerk decisions to me.

It just makes me chuckle at how little thought and effort has been put into this statement. Once again they had a chance to really explain things and set out some ambitions rather than keeping us in the dark. Unfortunately it almost seems as though writing this was something that somebody didn?t actually want to do. It doesn?t even sound finished for fucks sake. Where is that PR woman? She needs sacking.

To sign off with I?ll once again reiterate that I never expected anything else but the bare minimum from Fatman and Throbbin. The disdain they show towards the fans is incomprehensible at times considering the fact that we are actually customers in one form or another. It would be nice to be treat like one for a change?

Rather than be treat as an inconvenience.

http://www.nufcblog.co.uk/2011/09/02/a-rough-translation-of-the-latest-nufc-statement/?

Syns denne oppsummerte ganske greit.

[Andymag]

http://www.nufc.co.uk/articles/20110902/newcastle-united-statement_2281670_2439966

Uttalelse fra Llambias om overgangsvinduet!

[localhero]

Uttalelsen fra Liambas oppsummerer ganske greit slik overgangsvinduet var for klubbe. Selv om newcastle hadde meget god tid til å hente ny spiss, så er det på en måte forståelig at man ikke kaster penger ut vinduet for å hente en eller annen spiss for langt mer enn han er verdt rett før vinduet stenger. Dog er det da utrolig merkelig at vi bød 12 mp for Brian Ruiz...

[Frode]

Det er ikke bare spissplassen som jeg mener klubben har bommet litt på. Jeg synes vi hadde bedre dekning i forsvaret i fjorårssesongen, spesielt i midtstopperposisjonen da vi hadde Sol Campbell til disposisjon. Etter at han ble frigitt står vi kun med Coloccini, S. Taylor og Williamson. Der er vi sårbare for skader og suspensjoner.
Det er heller ikke så mye penger som skal til før de aller fleste hadde vært strålende fornøyd med transfer vinduet. Fått på plass Erik Pieters for 6 mill Euro som var prisen, pluss en spiss så hadde stallen og laget sett så mye bedre ut og vi kunne drømt om å henge med lenge hos tpplagene.

Det er jo heller ikke hvor mye cash som blir brukt som er kjernen til skuffelsen, tror jeg. Jeg er ihvertfall likegyldig til om vi hadde hentet en spiss til £3 mill eller £12 mill bare kvaliteten var god nok og at det var utgangspunkt i at dette var en spennende signering.

En spiller som vi var linket med tidligere i sommer var jo islendingen Kolbeinn Sigbórsson. 21 år gammel og av flere regnet som minst like spennende som den unge dansken Christian Eriksen. At Ajax kun måtte ut med 4,5 millioner Euro for Kolbeinn er jo et kupp for dem. Fikk drakt nr 9 og står med 4 mål på 4 kamper så langt og 3 mål på 6 landskamper for lilleputt Island, sterkt.

En annen spiss vi var linket mye til i sommer var Shane Long. Nok en ung spiller på 24 år som kostet WBA kun 4,5 millioner pound, med muligheter for at prisen kan komme opp i 6,5 millioner pound om han slår til. Foreløpig 2 mål på 3 kamper i PL mot henholdsvis ManU og Chelsea.


Så det var muligheter til å hente det Pardew og Carver trenger for å oppnå best mulig resultater. Kunne endt opp med både Pieters og Long eller Kolbeinn for ca 10 mill pound til sammen. Da hadde vi hatt en spennende og ung spiss og supplere med på topp og Nederlands landslagsback. Pieters kan jo også spille midtstopper. Tror de fleste hadde vært fornøyd da selv om det garantert hadde vært noen klager da også.

Uansett, slik det endte nå var for dårlig. Det morsomme var at TKK satt og slaktet Bryan Ruiz på TV2 etter at det ble kjent at Fulham la gode 10 mill pound på bordet for han. Ikke lenge etterpå kom meldingen om at NUFC hadde matchet budet. Llambias: "we have a very clear transfer policy and will not make knee-jerk decisions at the last-minute which are not in the best interests of the club."

[17Parker]

Uttalelsen fra Liambas oppsummerer ganske greit slik overgangsvinduet var for klubbe. Selv om newcastle hadde meget god tid til å hente ny spiss, så er det på en måte forståelig at man ikke kaster penger ut vinduet for å hente en eller annen spiss for langt mer enn han er verdt rett før vinduet stenger. Dog er det da utrolig merkelig at vi bød 12 mp for Brian Ruiz...

Egentlig ikke. Problemet med det andre du sier er at det aldri skulle ha kommet til det punktet at man trengte å tenke på å "kaste penger" etter naturligt dyrere spisser rett før vinduet stenger. Det var en situasjon vi satte oss inn i helt selv da vi nektet å forhandle når det gjaldt.

[Thomas]

Frode: Jeg tror ikke Shane Long var så billig..Den prisen du der siterer er hentet fra telegraph, men jeg har lest flere steder, blant annet daily mail, at prisen var £6.5 mill. Andre kilder nevner at det også er add ons med i bildet, slik at den totale avtalen kan havne på rundt £10 mill. .Hvis dette stemmer, så mener jeg det er for mye.

Her er en artikkel fra nufcblog.co.uk og den har en gjennomgang av årets spisskjøp i PL..Bortsett fra Ruiz, er det ingen av disse jeg ville hatt til nufc. Vi kan mao ikke kjøpe bare for å kjøpe. Det er uhyre vanskelig å finne gode spisser uten å betale veldig mye penger. £10 mill for Crouch sier sitt. Bommer vi på vår nye nr. 9 kan det sette tilbake vår økonomiske og sportslige utvikling over lang tid.

o after days of speculation, deliberation and frankly a whole lot of lies,we come to the end of another transfer window. It was one where there were a lot of highs and a lot of lows to go with it as expected. It was a typical Newcastle United rollercoaster ride. One of the biggest lows for me was the failure to sign a striker. Granted that we added Demba Ba to the squad but we were promised time and again that the club would find a proven striker who would find the back of the net on a regular basis for us.


That promise never materialised though and we find ourselves again being taken for a ride by the club?s hierarchy. Now, where I am going with this article is not to support the board or to slate them but let us take a step back and asses the strikers who moved on deadline day. I realise that it is not just the deadline day strikers that we should have been after but the clueless pack of jokers that run our club were always gonna leave it as late as possible.

So,the following is a list of strikers that moved on deadline day and whether I would have had them in at our club.

Peter Crouch

Well, where do I start with this? He has an amazing goal scoring record for England and has shown that he will score if given a prolonged run in a team. But is he somebody whom we need right now? I don?t think so. We already have big strikers and targetmen at the club and having Crouch will only add to a trait we already have. Plus the fact that he is 30 and has had a pretty dismal scoring record at Spurs makes it a no-go for me. Anyway, I have always felt that putting a 6 foot 7 inch pole on the pitch would have the same effect as him.

Cameron Jerome

Another Stoke signing and another signing I wouldn?t have wanted at the club.He can run the channels and can be a busy player but he is definitely not the quality that we wanted. He just does not have the ability or spark to stand out from the rest of our strikers and for that reason a No for him too.

Nicklas Bendtner

And now we come to the self proclaimed ?one of the best players in the world?. Now, this is a player that I would quite frankly have liked at the club. He has the talent and is so confident that some tests revealed it to be abnormal. He is I feel a striker who needs his managers backing and continuous time on the pitch to get better. With our lack of quality strikers and the job Alan Pardew has done with the likes of both Taylor?s and even Guttierrez to a certain extent, I feel he would have gotten on well here. He also would have had countryman Peter Lovenkrands to settle him in. His ego is a huge issue though and makes him a bit of risk. And now that he has joined the unwashed, I will loath him with a passion.

Jermaine Beckford

Another striker whom I feel wouldn?t have increased the quality of our strike force. We were after him last year when on a free from Leeds but it didn?t work out and am glad that it didn?t work out this time either. He frankly is a championship striker who has found his level.

Craig Bellamy

Bellamy was one of my favourite strikers when he used to play for us. His pace and guile was so very complimentary to Shearer?s play that he struck an immediate cord with all of us. But I guess that is where all the affection ends. Bellamy caused that huge stir with Souness, had a falling out with Shearer and was quite a horrible human being with an ego bigger than his house. He has also not replicated his Newcastle form at any of his latter clubs and at 32 is not getting any younger. So, it?s a No for him too.

Yakubu Aiyegbeni

Well, he would have been a hit or a miss signing. He has the ability to score goals but just does not have the quality to lead the line on his own or create goals out of nothing. I don?t think that he would have added more quality to our frontline and therefore I must go with a No for him too.

Orlando Sa and Denis Stracqualursi

Now, I just put in these two players as they are technically strikers. But, their goalscoring records are not at all impressive and are not proven strikers, so am saying a No to them is pretty easy.

Shaun Maloney

Another striker who I don?t think would have made our strikeforce any more fearsome. We need quality and he definitely is not it.

Bryan Ruiz

And finally we reach the player who was our last resort in the striker hunt. Now this is a player I definitely would have liked us to sign. He is the sort of player who plays as a second striker or an attacking midfielder but despite that his goalscoring record is phenomenal. We went in very late for him and the player had already suggested that he had been in talks with Fulham for many days. He might not have led the line for us on his own but would have been great playing off or behind players like Ba or Best. Perhaps we have Ben Arfa to take over that role once he regains fitness.

I am sad that we didn?t sign him but scoring goals in the Dutch Eredivise is different from scoring in the Premier League. Just ask Afonso Alves, Ryan Babel and others. Hope he doesn?t haunt us and make us think ? ?Just what if he?d signed?.

Of course, these are the players who only moved into or out of the Premier League.The strikers who did in other leagues include players like Diego Forlan, Helder Postiga, Mauro Zarate, Ikechukwu Uche and the likes, players whom we didn?t have a chance in hell of signing or would have been completely useless in improving the team.

[Thomas]

Dette er forøvrig et godt innlegg tatt fra NO:

As Wenger has said, despite what many fans think, it's not a supermarket. The price you pay for a player doesn't just depend on his quality, it's what the competition is for his signature, how much his club wants to keep him, and the strength of the player's motivation to join your club. All that can be overcome if you're prepared to pay enough money, but then you may end up paying more than the player is worth, and blocking your options further down the line.

We keep hearing, 'they've had six months to find a replacement' but it's not that simple. The player you really want is likely to have other options, and is likely to be wanted by other clubs, not least the one he's currently playing for. The player and his club might well want to keep their options open for a long time, to see if better offers come up, and in the final shake-up, you may lose out.

[Daniel]

Frode: Jeg tror ikke Shane Long var så billig..Den prisen du der siterer er hentet fra telegraph, men jeg har lest flere steder, blant annet daily mail, at prisen var £6.5 mill. Andre kilder nevner at det også er add ons med i bildet, slik at den totale avtalen kan havne på rundt £10 mill. .Hvis dette stemmer, så mener jeg det er for mye.

Og du snakker om å skyte seg selv i foten? Hvis overgangen en gang i tiden blir verdt £10m, så er det jo tydelig at Long har v'rt en suksess og da er selvfølgelig hver eneste krone vel brukt.

[17Parker]

Frode: Jeg tror ikke Shane Long var så billig..Den prisen du der siterer er hentet fra telegraph, men jeg har lest flere steder, blant annet daily mail, at prisen var £6.5 mill. Andre kilder nevner at det også er add ons med i bildet, slik at den totale avtalen kan havne på rundt £10 mill. .Hvis dette stemmer, så mener jeg det er for mye.

Her er en artikkel fra nufcblog.co.uk og den har en gjennomgang av årets spisskjøp i PL..Bortsett fra Ruiz, er det ingen av disse jeg ville hatt til nufc. Vi kan mao ikke kjøpe bare for å kjøpe. Det er uhyre vanskelig å finne gode spisser uten å betale veldig mye penger. £10 mill for Crouch sier sitt. Bommer vi på vår nye nr. 9 kan det sette tilbake vår økonomiske og sportslige utvikling over lang tid.

Shane Long gikk for £4.5m med add ons som kunne ta summen til £6.5m. En grei pris.

Greit, det er ingen av spissene som ble kjøpt på transferdeadline som du ville ha. Hva så? Beviser det at vi ikke kan kjøpe bare for å kjøpe? Utrolig merkelig argument. Vi hadde ingen seriøs interesse i noen av disse, forutenom om noe knee-jerk greier (ironisk nok) siste dagen hva Bryan Ruiz gjaldt. Vi hadde over et halvt år. Det skal ikke gå an å ikke få tak i en passende spiller på den tiden.

[17Parker]

Dette er forøvrig et godt innlegg tatt fra NO:

As Wenger has said, despite what many fans think, it's not a supermarket. The price you pay for a player doesn't just depend on his quality, it's what the competition is for his signature, how much his club wants to keep him, and the strength of the player's motivation to join your club. All that can be overcome if you're prepared to pay enough money, but then you may end up paying more than the player is worth, and blocking your options further down the line.

We keep hearing, 'they've had six months to find a replacement' but it's not that simple. The player you really want is likely to have other options, and is likely to be wanted by other clubs, not least the one he's currently playing for. The player and his club might well want to keep their options open for a long time, to see if better offers come up, and in the final shake-up, you may lose out.

Det er så enkelt.

Ja, selvfølgelig må du betale, men det er en situasjon vi selv har satt oss opp for. Vi kan ikke vente år bare fordi vi må betale noen millioner ekstra. Dessuten ville flere av de spillerene vi var linket til, til oss. Problemet var at vi nektet å forhandle i tide.

[Daniel]

So basicly:
Oooh, nice goalrecord on that player! Lets get him in.
Us: How much you want for x player?
them: Uhm, 20mp? *bites lip*
us: We'll give you .1mp
them: f*** off
us: Well we tried our hardest