Den store "hvem blir ny manager"-tråden

[oivind99]

En liten digresjon bare for å kritisere stolpediagrammet som skal illustrere avstemningen... de som har få stemmer (f.eks. jewell på 1%) ser jo ut som de har nesten halvparten så mange som de som har mange, selv om de kanskje har 40 ganger så mange %.. (f.eks Hitzfeld med ~42%). Menmen, det er ikke det jeg tenker mest på da

[plebbster]

http://www.vg.no/pub/vgart.hbs?artid=114673

Nå har jeg endelig tro på at O'Neill kommer.

Ja når det kommer i VG da er det virkelig noe i det. Eller?

Ja, det kan se sånn ut. Jeg har ikke endelig tro på at O'neill kommer fordi VG har en lav odds på ham. Den artikkelen styrker bare min tro på at han kommer.

[Ã…smund]

Ja kanskje det. Men det blir bare rykter før selveste fat fred kommer med nyheten

[oivind99]

Jeg har vedig liten tro på at O'Neill kommer..
2 grunner:
- Han er mackems-fan, og har ifølge ikke-fullt-så-sikre kilder en Sunderland-tatoo og kommet med uttalelser om at han aldri kommer til å være manager for de svart/hvite
- Han er en stoor kandidat til å ta over etter svenske-sven

[Ã…smund]

Jeg har vedig liten tro på at O'Neill kommer..
2 grunner:
- Han er mackems-fan, og har ifølge ikke-fullt-så-sikre kilder en Sunderland-tatoo og kommet med uttalelser om at han aldri kommer til å være manager for de svart/hvite
- Han er en stoor kandidat til å ta over etter svenske-sven

Hvis det er sant bør han aldri bevege seg inn på tyneside. Kan ikke ha en manager med sunderland tatovering

[Dag Riise]

Disse ikke fult så sikre kildene, det er vel ikke deg det da?

[Asbjørn]

Jeg har vedig liten tro på at O'Neill kommer..
2 grunner:
- Han er mackems-fan, og har ifølge ikke-fullt-så-sikre kilder en Sunderland-tatoo og kommet med uttalelser om at han aldri kommer til å være manager for de svart/hvite
- Han er en stoor kandidat til å ta over etter svenske-sven

Hvis det er sant bør han aldri bevege seg inn på tyneside. Kan ikke ha en manager med sunderland tatovering

At han har Sunderland tattoo er 100% sikkert, uten at jeg bryr meg med det.

[Asbjørn]

Siste fra The Mirror idag:

ENGLAND AND TOON IN FIGHT OVER O'NEILL

By Martin Lipton

MARTIN O'NEILL was at the centre of a tug of war for his services last night when Newcastle stepped in ahead of the Football Association to offer him a job.

The FA planned to start talks with O'Neill this week after chief executive Brian Barwick identified him as his personal choice to succeed Sven Goran Eriksson after the World Cup.

But although the hunt for the next England manager will be speeded up once tomorrow's friendly with Uruguay is out of the way, his No.1 target is mulling over an offer from the Tynesiders.

O'Neill, aware the ball is in his court and keen to keep his options open, has yet to give the Newcastle board an answer.

United could pay more than the £3million-a-year the FA will offer - two thirds of Eriksson's salary. And although O'Neill is thought to prefer the chance to work from his Buckinghamshire home, the FA may have to move quicker than planned to land the Ulsterman.

Barwick has been confirmed as the man to lead the manager hunt, but has still to convince the rest of the FA board that O'Neill is the right man for the job.


He had already been told to formally begin the next stage of the search for Eriksson's replacement, although the situation appeared to be muddied when Arsenal vice-chairman David Dein and FA director of football development Sir Trevor Brooking were added to the appointments commission.


That suggested Barwick had failed to carry his argument over O'Neill, with Brooking known to have a high regard for Alan Curbishley and Dein understood to want to keep the foreign option alive.


Yet Barwick will be at the head of the series of meetings with O'Neill, Curbishley and the other candidates - Stuart Pearce of Manchester City and Bolton boss Sam Allardyce - over the next few weeks. Eriksson's assistant Steve McClaren, the Middlesbrough boss, will also be kept in the picture.


The FA hierarchy, determined not to be rushed into a decision, planned to announce the new coach by the time the England squad gathers for a pre-World Cup training camp in Portugal on May 15.


That would have meant talks with the favoured candidates - with O'Neill in prime position - starting on Thursday and a full report going to the next FA board meeting on April 5, five weeks away. But Newcastle's intervention may force Barwick into acting quicker.


England Under-21 manager Peter Taylor, who took charge of the senior team for one game against Italy in November 2000 before Eriksson arrived, yesterday made known his interest in the job. "I think other countries promote from within, maybe that's why my name is being mentioned," said the Hull boss.

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... spennende. Jeg har tenkt at det lønner seg å ligge litt på vent nå, men her tyder det på at man er tidlig ute (les: offensiv) men tanke på å sette press på FA og andre aktuelle arbeidsgivere.

Kan noen gi meg en kjapp briefing på O'Neills meritter ... som trener? Vet han har vunnet noe med Celtic, men det kunne jeg omtrent gud og hvermann. Som trener for Celtic eller Rangers er det jo 50-50 om du vinner noe eller ikke. Hoddle kunne jo også ha vunnet noe med Celtic, men teller Celtic da??!?!?!

[Asbjørn]

... spennende. Jeg har tenkt at det lønner seg å ligge litt på vent nå, men her tyder det på at man er tidlig ute (les: offensiv) men tanke på å sette press på FA og andre aktuelle arbeidsgivere.

Kan noen gi meg en kjapp briefing på O'Neills meritter ... som trener? Vet han har vunnet noe med Celtic, men det kunne jeg omtrent gud og hvermann. Som trener for Celtic eller Rangers er det jo 50-50 om du vinner noe eller ikke. Hoddle kunne jo også ha vunnet noe med Celtic, men teller Celtic da??!?!?!

MARTIN O'NEILL FACTFILE

1952: Born Kilrea, N. Ireland.

1978: Becomes City Ground hero as part of Nottingham Forest's league and League Cup double-winning side.

1979: Wins second League Cup to retain trophy.

1980: Becomes European Cup winner as Forest beat Hamburg.

1985: Injury ends playing days.

1990: Appointed manager of Wycombe after spells with Stamford and Shepshed Charterhouse. Wins promotion to Football League.

1995: Joins Norwich but quits after six months over lack of cash. Takes over Leicester and leads them to Premiership and two Coca-Cola Cups.

2000: June: Ends calamitous reign of John Barnes and Kenny Dalglish at Celtic.

August: Incredibly, Celtic rise from the doldrums to wallop a stunned Rangers 6-2 in his first Old Firm derby.

2001: Achieves the unthinkable with domestic treble after one season in charge.

2002: May: Despite losing to a revitalised Rangers in both domestic cups Celtic show the spirit now synonymous with O'Neill's reign and retain the SPL title.

2003: January: Desperate to keep him, Celtic get him to sign 12-month rolling contract.

March: Beaten by Rangers in CIS Cup final, but bigger fish await.

May: In the club's most momentous achievement in 33 years, reaches UEFA Cup final, losing in extra-time to Porto. Pipped by Rangers to the league on final day of the season.

2004: April: Creates Scottish record of league wins on the spin - 27. Regains SPL title with six games to spare.

May: Earns second double in four years with win over Dunfermline.

July: Delays Celtic's summer trip to USA to care for sick wife, Geraldine.

December: Celtic out of Europe.

2005: May 22: Hands title to Rangers in last three minutes of season. Resigns to care for his wife.

May 29: Emotional O'Neill wins seventh domestic trophy by lifting Scottish Cup in last game.

[folesvert]

... tusen takk. Ringte mange bjeller nå! Imponderende det han fikk til i Leicester.

[folesvert]

Denne artikkelen tilsier at O'Neill vil velge Newcastle framfor landslaget! Samtidig vil vel en landslagsjobb gjøre at han kan være mer hos sin syke kone.

I alle fall ... her er artikkelen

Talking Point: Newcastle more tempting for O'Neill
By Scott Wilson
NEWCASTLE chairman Freddy Shepherd has always claimed that leading his club is one of the top ten managerial jobs in the world and, when it comes to Martin O'Neill, his theory is about to be put to the test.

If nothing else, the next couple of weeks should give a clear indication of whether the Ulsterman considers it to be bigger than leading England.

With both Shepherd and the Football Association keen to acquire O'Neill services, the former Wycombe, Leicester and Celtic boss finds himself at the centre of an unseemly tug-of-war.

But, while many are treating his eventual decision as a commentary on the current state of the club vs country battle, his choice of employer should not be taken as a definitive verdict on which form of the game is in the ascendancy.

As both Newcastle and the FA are currently finding out, O'Neill's personal position is unique. What is right for him may not be right for the next manager finding himself facing such a quandary.

At first glance, there does not seem to be much of an issue. Surely the chance to lead England overshadows an opportunity to lead a club who have not won a domestic trophy since 1955?

While expectations are growing ahead of this summer's World Cup, there is already an acceptance that England's finest hour could yet come when the European Championships visit Austria and Switzerland in 2008.

By then, the likes of Wayne Rooney, Jermain Defoe, Steven Gerrard, Joe Cole, Ashley Cole and Ledley King should be at the peak of their powers.

The talent is there and, while Sven Goran Eriksson could yet raise the bar by triumphing in Germany this summer, the Swede has never been a winner in the popularity stakes. Given O'Neill's ability to win almost universal respect, it is hard to imagine him struggling to gain the support of the England fans.

In terms of worldwide standing, the England manager's job remains one of the most exalted positions in the game and, as Eriksson is likely to discover this summer, even the most moderate of successes is enough to set someone up for life.

But, while succeeding the Swede can offer O'Neill fame and fortune, his head could yet be turned by more mundane fare.

The 53-year-old has not been in work since he departed from Celtic last May. While he has subsequently devoted himself to caring for his sick wife Geraldine, he has told friends and former colleagues that he misses a day-to-day involvement in the game. For all its profile and prestige, managing England will not provide that.

Australia boss Guus Hiddink could not believe the FA were unwilling to countenance making the England manager's job a part-time post. The Dutchman has guided the Socceroos to the World Cup finals despite also leading PSV Eindhoven in the Champions League and, given the sporadic nature of the international game, he was confident he could achieve the same success over here.

If O'Neill really is missing football, leading England would provide only a temporary fix. By offering a return to hands-on club management, Newcastle could yet benefit from the FA's inability to offer anything more than a glorified scouting job in disguise.

While Jermaine Jenas was unable to handle the Newcastle 'goldfish bowl', Shepherd could also prosper from the difference in both expectation and intrusion that goes along with the two posts.

O'Neill would be expected to deliver on Tyneside, but he would be given time to sift through the mess left by former boss Graeme Souness and, crucially, his private life would remain largely that.

While his wife is gradually recovering from her cancer scare, she remains in a relatively fragile condition. As a result, O'Neill is understandably reluctant to expose his personal situation to the full media glare.

The more rabid elements of the tabloid media may be willing to make initial promises to England's new boss. Lose 1-0 to Northern Ireland though and, as Eriksson found to his cost, all bets are off.

Taking charge of England would bring inevitable intrusion and, at such an insecure stage of his life, early indications are that O'Neill is unwilling to make such a sacrifice.

That could well play into Newcastle's hands, but it is wrong to assume the England job has become too hot to handle. Other managers remain desperate to give it a go and, with the managerial merry-go-round currently in full swing, one team's loss remains another team's discovery.

[oivind99]

Dette er jo strengt tatt spekulasjoner fra journalistens side, men det kan jo faktisk hende at O'Neill foretrekker klubb fremfor landslaget. Og jeg synes også det er rart slik som Hiddink sier at landslaget ikke får være deltidsjobb..! Men det ser ut som vi kan forvente at ting vil skje i løpet av de neste ukene med tanke på O'Neill, så jeg er spent på å se hva som skjer!

[folesvert]

Jeg har tenkt at Newcastle vil vente til etter VM, men som Sven Gøran Eriksen sier her ... hvilke managere / trenere er det som har is i magen til å vente med og skaffe seg en jobb til etter VM. Som han sier her er kikker han etter jobb nå!!!

Kan det bli Svennis mon tro ...?

Departing England boss Sven-Goran Eriksson has revealed he is already searching for a new job.

The Swede will step down from his role with England after the World Cup finals and as he is keen to return to management next season he believes he cannot afford to wait until then to start speaking to interested clubs.


SVEN GORAN ERIKSSON "I don't want a break from football. Absolutely not," said Eriksson.

"I would like a couple of weeks' holiday after the World Cup but after that what is there to do if you're not in football?

"If I want to work in football from August 1, I have to sort that out before the World Cup.

"Who takes a new manager at the end of July? No-one. Do you think I should wait and see if I win the World Cup? No.

"I'm not taking my phone and calling clubs, asking if they want me. I'm sitting waiting and if the phone rings it rings.

Official sports products with fast worldwide delivery, gives you Your Kit-Quick! "It hasn't rung yet but I'm not worried about that. What happens, happens."

Eriksson has been linked with the managerial hot-seats at Real Madrid and Newcastle United, but a return to Italy where he enjoyed success with Roma, Sampdoria and Lazio looks more likely.

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... for det er jo ikke mange av de andre nevnte klubbene som ikke har managere pr. dags dato.

Med Svennis tror jeg det vi trenger med kontinuitet vil gå i vasken. Han ville sikkert takket ja til en av de andre nevnte klubbene med en gang han fikk sjansen?