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Hans J

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« Svar #60 på: 01. Sep. 2011, 12:37 »
?He's the type of player who could become the new Maldini or Zanetti over the next few years." ;D

Satser på det. Kjem ikkje på ein einaste italiensk back som har slått skikkelig til i PL før, men ein må vel bli den første. Dossena og Tramezzani var i alle fall fiasko deluxe. Pistone viste tendensar, men var uheldig med skader.

Ang. Pistone, må eg legge ved ei artig anekdote frå julebordssesongen 1998. Sikkert kjent for ein del, men here goes: In 1998, Newcastle came up with a novel and in no way casually racist take on Christmas party fun. The players were each to be given a present: Dietmar Hamann (he's German, tee hee hee) got a copy of Mein Kampf, while the Italian Alessandro Pistone, perceived as lacking fight, was given a sheep's heart.

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Ellers enig med annern ang. Pardew og forsvarsarbeidet. Synest linja har vore tilnærma perfekt denne sesongen, og trur spesielt Saylor har tent masse på eit slikt fokus. Saylor har i alle fall vore knallgod dei første tre PL-kampane.

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« Svar #61 på: 01. Sep. 2011, 13:22 »
Videresalgsverdien er ikke et problem i seg selv. Den godtar jeg. Problemet oppstår når summen av alt som må ligge til rette, gjør at målene ikke kan oppfylles. Eksempelvis ville f.eks en bendtner på lån antagelig vært et dårlig trekk, isolert sett økonomisk. Men kanskje det kunne løftet klubben to plasser opp på tabellen? Ikke vet jeg? En fotballklubb oppnår suksess først når resultatene kommer, du sparer deg sjelden til suksess, og iallfall ikke i en fotballklubb. Derimot er det fullt mulig å spare seg til fant. I et forsøk på å finne den rette balansegangen her, så håper jeg ikke Mike Ashley er på veg til å gjøre det siste (altså spare seg til fant) med klubben "vår".

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« Svar #62 på: 01. Sep. 2011, 15:53 »
Er Zabaleta italiensk?

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« Svar #63 på: 01. Sep. 2011, 15:55 »
Er Zabaleta italiensk?
Han er vel argentiner?

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« Svar #64 på: 01. Sep. 2011, 16:31 »
Er Zabaleta italiensk?
Han er vel argentiner?

Han er fra Argentina ja:)

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« Svar #65 på: 07. Sep. 2011, 15:26 »
http://www.nufcblog.com/2011/09/07/davide-santon-i-am-overjoyed-to-be-a-newcastle-united-player/

Davide Santon ? I Am Overjoyed To Be A Newcastle United Player

Newcastle?s recent signing, Italian 20 year-old Davide  Santon was due back on Tyneside this morning, after captaining the Italian U21 side to a 3-0 win against Hungary, in the European U21 qualifying game.

Tamas Kadar, who seems to be the forgotten man at Newcastle these days, was in the Hungary side, so the two Newcastle team-mates were against each other last night .

Davide has talked to the Newcastle press today, and says as far as he is concerned he will play anywhere for Newcastle, and the youngster can play in either full-back position and also in midfield too.

The Italian International will make his debut at QPR on Monday night,  and Newcastle fans will be very keen to see him in action, and he will be at left-back in that game, and had been given the number 3 shirt on Tyneside.

He played at right back last night for the Italian U21 side, and Davide had this to say to the local Newcastle press today:

?I feel that I am ready. I am naturally both-footed.? ?It is no problem to play on either side as a full-back or on the right wing or left.?

?I am defender but if the manager asks me to attack as well, it?s not a problem.?  ?I just want to be part of this team.? ?I am overjoyed still to be a Newcastle United player.?

?I want to win and the sooner I pull on the famous black-and-white striped shirt the better.?  ?I can?t wait for this experience now.?

We thought  he was primarily right footed but it?s good news he can play with either foot.

Of course following Wednesday?s failure to bring in a new striker to replace Andy Carroll, things have not been positive at Newcastle, and the doom and gloomers have been out in full cry.

That?s one reason the lads have to go all out to get a win at Loftus Road early next week, because that will be four wins in a row, and an excellent start to the season.

There have been cries for Newcastle fans to boycott the club, but that?s like cutting your nose off to spite  your face, it simply doesn?t work, and worst of all,  it has a negative impact on the players.

That was done during the relegation season, and it didn?t work then ? we were relegated ? and it will not work now, but fans have their own opinions on what should be done, and so be it.

The 7 times capped Italian International continued:

?Alan Pardew told me that the club have a plan to grow together.? ?I feel this is the right place for me now and wouldn?t have left a club like Inter if it wasn?t.?

?I came here because it is a big club and I felt it could benefit my career.? ?I?m happy that I have been given this chance.?

?I just want to show the Newcastle fans that I am a great player and help them continue what has been a great start to the season.?

?I have watched so many Premier League games on TV at home in Italy, now I just want to be part of one of those games.?

?Already I feel by watching these games that I will be comfortable with the pace in the Premier League.?

In an effort to get the lad settled quickly, Newcastle will help Santon and his father Mirco find a home quickly at Newcastle, in the next few days.

We understand both his mother and father will come over to live on Tyneside, to be with their son, and of course they will be at the homes games at St. James? Park too.

David seems to have every chance of becoming a huge player for Newcastle in the years ahead, and he?s a very good replacement for the departed Jose Enrique.

And while it was so disappointing  not to being in a new striker last week, it doesn?t alter the fact that Davide was a terrific acquisition for Newcastle United, so the club did something right last Tuesday.

Howay The Lads!!

Comments welcome.

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« Svar #66 på: 10. Sep. 2011, 13:58 »
From a defensive standpoint they are imo ie. Serie A & Italian representatives/I.N.T.s.

Structurally Serie A and I.N.T. outfields (from the first defensive line to back four) play to a very compressed shape. They play 'wide', from left-to-right but they cut the length of the pitch considerably more than other national teams. This difference also applies to Serie A outfits. It's a trait, or football ideology, which is infused within Italian football. Particularly from a player & team perspective, where little defensive tinkering is required (especially for an new/incoming manager) during the early stages of their own team building, even for a noted defensive genius & foreign manager in Mourinho.

Serie A outfits are forever cautious in attack, they generally don't commit extra numbers going forward. On a turn-over the transition from attack to defensive duties is swift. Very rarely do you see an Italian side exposed (with exploitable space behind the backtracking & defending forwards/attackers) themselves to the counter. This plays a big part in what you could describe as the atypical Italian-style & patient build-up play ie. long sequences of pin-point where they are forced to precisely forge their way through each settled defensive line.

When you take into account the aforementioned team shape & attacking tempo, as significant factors in open play, fullbacks have a comparatively easier ride than that of their peers. Especially over (in England) where counter attacking sides will utilise the wide spaces early in transitional phase play, where fullbacks are most vulnerable to one-on-one pressure. English league, due to a combination of football culture and depth 'wide attacking talent', are exposed to relentless one-on-one pressure on a weekly or match-to-match basis. That said the trade of an EPL fullback is the toughest gig in European football, as defensive jobs go.

This is in stark contrast to Italian/Serie A football. The attacking threats posed to each counterpart couldn't be any more different. The biggest threat posed to a Serie A f/back lies in a central-midfield playmaker's (with vision, to match technical excellence/passing range) ability to spot a hole in an otherwise compressed defensive phalanx & being able to kill the fullback with the switch-up 'killer ball' in behind the ball. Take the attacking execution out of the equation this threat comes down to a f/back contributing to his downfall ie. drifting inside. Within the confines of an Italian defensive phalanx, providing they maintain their positional discipline, there's little exploitable space for the widemen and it's smooth sailing for the F/back.

This, the vast chasm in our respective football cultures, is notable intangible in terms of whether Santon can adapt. C.Ronaldo, who has faced him, was impressed, but the defensive set-up faced by Ronaldo (compared with English league) is an altogether different beast & playing field. A match-up versus C.Ronaldo (or any ball-carrying wideman close to his ability) within the confines of EPL football (without the aforementioned security blanket provided, as per Italian football) is the ultimate yardstick for any promising f/back looking to forge a reputation in the game.

Pistone likewise arrived here with the reputation of a supremely promising and elegant ball-playing f/back. It's a while ago now, wasn't there fan fare like 'the next Maldini'. Ultimately though Piston was unable bridge that footballer, away from Italy, without his accustomed defensive security blanket. Elegant looking defender he looked, but his newfound defensive responsibilities were an entirely different kettle of fish, and he crumbled under the pressure of having his opposite number constantly going for his jugular in open space. The same applies to his days at Everton.

A key Santon bridging this significant gap is that he needs to hit the ground running. He needs to be comfortable in his play, in both defense and attacking aspects. The lad has a reputation for being mentally fragile, a bit of a bi-polar footballer of sorts ie. he either looks a world beaten and has a supremely confident swagger about him, or he is unsure of himself and falls apart. The last thing you want is a lad with sort of psychological make-up being unsure of their in the team. This exactly what happened under Mourinho, where the lad won the RB slot but the Great One (normally a great developer of defensive talent) refined his role as a utility man within his defensive ranks. Pardew reinstating him to his natural position, where the lad is confident where it is said that he has a swagger about him when employed there, will go halfway to having the kid adapt. The other half being whether the kid has heart & mental backbone, to accompany his physical attributes, needed to cope with what is imo one of toughest football-based playing transitions in European club football. Italian football to the 'open expanses of English football where you are much more accountable & exposed one-on-one' is the football equivalent of a juvenile lion having to leave the safety of his mother's pride, to fight his own battles on the open plains.

If the lad isn't cut from the same cloth as Pistone, in that he develops some mental toughness to his repertoire, then Wor Mike has a 15m cash windfall waiting in the wings.

If it has tits or wheels, count on problems!

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« Svar #67 på: 13. Sep. 2011, 15:42 »
Snippet fra Live-updates på Nufc.co.uk (NUFC Reserves vs Norwich Reserves):
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6mins - Debutant David Santon embarks upon a strong run from left back, beating two men before Sam Kelly ends his progress with a foul. An encouraging start from the Italian.

13mins - Santon strides into the box with another surging run, steps over the ball to bamboozle Richard Brindley and cuts the ball back for Ryan Donaldson. The striker's backheel is pounced upon by Greg McDermott from close range for his first goal of the season, struck high into the roof of the net.

68mins Santon, going in search of a goal on his debut cuts inside from the left but fires over the top from the edge of the penalty box.

45+1mins - Santon has been good, Kadar looks strong, Guthrie has been inventive and Gosling has two well-taken goals.

70mins - Santon's afternoon is over and it's been a bright start for the Italian international. He is replaced by Stephen Folan, and departs with a wave to the fans.
« Siste redigering: 13. Sep. 2011, 15:44 av ElvenKind »
Sagt av lgrinde om Papisse og Ba før kjøpet av Cissé var et faktum:
Dei to ville ha blomstra ilag som to nysprungne fruktblomster på eit epletre bada i vårsola i Sogn.

Vive la Révolution française!

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« Svar #68 på: 13. Sep. 2011, 15:55 »
Spiltw han VB?
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« Svar #69 på: 13. Sep. 2011, 15:58 »
Jepp.

Forøvrig ble resultatet 6-0 i favør NUFC :D
Sagt av lgrinde om Papisse og Ba før kjøpet av Cissé var et faktum:
Dei to ville ha blomstra ilag som to nysprungne fruktblomster på eit epletre bada i vårsola i Sogn.

Vive la Révolution française!

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« Svar #70 på: 13. Sep. 2011, 16:09 »
Gosling scora 2? :D

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« Svar #71 på: 15. Sep. 2011, 15:46 »

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« Svar #72 på: 15. Sep. 2011, 15:47 »
Pådro seg en kneskade på dagens trening og har blitt sendt til videre undersøkelser.

Jeg orker ikke mer.

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« Svar #73 på: 15. Sep. 2011, 15:50 »
Må nesten bare le :(

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« Svar #74 på: 15. Sep. 2011, 15:50 »
Herregud! Går det an å ha litt flaks med denne klubben.
Enig Daniel jeg gir opp..