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« Svar #660 på: 27. Mars 2010, 02:24 »
Tipper likevel at folk som Bohinen, Thorstvedt og noen andre av disse tullegutta som bare fjaser blir med i PL-teamet også, fordi de tross alt har spilt fotball i England og liksom vet alt om engelsk fotball i dag, av den grunn. Dessuten er det ingen grunn til å tro at fokuset vil bli noe annet enn på dommertabber, norske spillere som bare sitter på benken, men som likevel vil bli hypet noe vanvittig og de fire store.
Det vil altså ikke bli fokus på fotballen, men på enkeltpersoner og lag.
Det er ikke den dekningen jeg ønsker. Takk Gud for Three Lions!

Jeg skjønner det er vanskelig å skulle bli fornøyd når man har vedtatt at det blir elendig før man i det hele tatt har fått presentert opplegget! En ting er å være negativ når man har fått presentert opplegget, men gi nå TV2 i det minste sjansen til å legge fram et tilbud først da! I Øyvind Alsaker har TV2 f.eks en person som har bedre kunnskaper og engasjement for engelsk fotball enn de aller fleste i Norge.
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« Svar #661 på: 27. Mars 2010, 08:19 »
Blodpropp kunne drept Premier League-stjerne
En tilfeldig tur innom klubblegen kan ha reddet Gary Cahills liv.
http://msn.tv2sporten.no/fotball/england/blodpropp-kunne-drept-premier-leaguestjerne-3171109.html

Det ser ut til og gå bra med han iallefall. Godt dette ble oppdaget tidlig, slik at han kunne få fikset det.
Bare og ønske han god bedring og håper han snart kommer tilbake.
Er ikke lett å være Newcastle fan.
Men jeg elsker klubben uansett hva som skjer.

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« Svar #662 på: 02. April 2010, 10:39 »
I påsken har det som kjent vært litt rykter rundt Martin O`Neill og hans fremtid i Aston Villa. Han skal visstnok ha falt ut med eier Randy Lerner. Med tanke på at Lerner er den som har gitt mest midler til spillerkjøp til sin klubb siden 2006, bortsett fra ManCity da, så er ikke resultatene til MON så fantastiske som de først kan se ut som.

Kom over denne artikkelen på N-O forumet:

Gabriele Marcotti
Tuesday offered a textbook case of how quickly rumours can spread. Peter Lansley's piece sums up neatly how unconfirmed reports of Martin O'Neill's resignation as Aston Villa manager romped around the web and the airwaves. Heck, I was part of it too ... retweeting Oli Kay's tweet (which, responsibly, reminded us that it was UNCONFIRMED) and then watching the mayhem unfold.
I have to confess I don't understand the O'Neill phenomenon. Maybe it's my fault. I don't think he plays outstanding, innovative football. I do think he sets out his teams in a well-organised counter-attacking system and generally gets them to execute his game plan very well. But so do others.
I don't think he's particularly shrewd or creative in the transfer market. By my reckoning, since arriving at Villa Park, his club have spent more money than any other team in the Premier League (£88 million in net terms) with the exception of Manchester City. And, after all that expense, Villa will probably finish somewhere between fifth and seventh which basically equates to the club punching its weight.
Take a quick look at history. O'Neill finished 11th in his first season and sixth the last two years. The much maligned David O'Leary took Villa to sixth place in 2003-04. That was his first season at the club and he took over a side which had finished just three points above relegation the previous year. In the seven seasons between 1995 and 2002, Villa finished fourth, fifth, seventh, sixth, sixth, eighth and eighth, while winning the League Cup in 1996. The guys managing Villa in those years were Brian Little and John Gregory (with a bit of Graham Taylor thrown in). Neither Little nor Gregory (let alone O'Leary) are spoken of in the same glowing terms as O'Neill. And yet they achieved what they achieved without the massive investment from Randy Lerner, but with the rather more cautious Doug Ellis at the helm.
I fail to see what in his results at Aston Villa suggests he's any different from his peers who achieved comparable results, like Harry Redknapp (with a comparable budget) or David Moyes (with a smaller budget and smaller wage bill).
Further muddying the waters - and, again, it's probably just me - is the fact that I don't understand what his transfer strategy is. Since arriving at Villa he has only bought players from British clubs, with three exceptions: John Carew, reserve goalkeeper Brad Guzan and Moustapha Salifou (who is 26 and has yet to start a league game). It has been a pattern throughout his career. At Celtic, in five seasons he brought in three players from abroad: Bobo Balde and Joos Valgaeren who were pretty good and Michael Herbert, who never played a single league game for the club. Now, you obviously don't need to buy players from abroad to be a good manager. But the fact that he has bought just six in nearly nine seasons is a bit of a head-scratcher.
Unless he's somehow prejudiced against them (and I don't think he is), it suggests his scouting network and decision-making maybe isn't what it should be. Instead, he's bought British players, mostly young ones, for which he's been widely praised. But again, it's not as if he's unearthed gems, signing some teenage left back from Colchester who then goes on to become the next Stuart Pearce or an underrated striker from Reading whose career he helps get back on track. Most of his British signings are fairly obvious ones - well-known players at market prices, whether it's Stewart Downing or Ashley Young or James Milner. There's no great nous or imagination there, it's basically a case of bringing in brand names. And paying accordingly for the privilege.
He's supposed to be some kind of guru to young players, but, in fact, he's given league debuts to just four home-grown players in four seasons. One of them, Isaiah Osbourne, is now on loan at Middlesbrough. The other three - Ciaran Clark, Marc Albrighton and Nathan Delfouneso - have between them started a single league game this season and played less than 300 minutes between them. He's meant to be methodical and clear-thinking, but then he signed three quarters of his starting back four (Stephen Warnock, Richard Dunne and James Collins) in the last hours of the transfer window. Which actually doesn't suggest much of a plan at all.
What you're left with is his results. Which, as stated above, are good but not exceptional. Three SPL titltes, three Scottish FA Cups and a League Cup in five years. But, of course, that was at Celtic. Gordon Strachan, his successor, also won three league titles, as well as a Scottish FA Cup and two League Cups, and he did it in four years. You don't see Strachan mentioned in the same breath as Sir Alex Ferguson and Brian Clough do you? And, yes, he did take Celtic to the Uefa Cup final. (But then Steve McClaren also took Middlesbrough to a Uefa Cup final).
O'Neill strikes me, ultimately, as someone who does the job to the level you would expect, given the resources at his disposal. Nothing less, nothing more. When you have a net spend of £88 million over four years, a top six finish is the least you can expect. We'll never know, of course, but one would imagine that, say, David Moyes might have attained comparable heights if he'd had £88 million to spend, instead of the roughly £20 million net spend he's had to work with since O'Neill's arrival. Who knows? Maybe some of the folks further down the food chain would have as well. Heck, maybe even Brian Little and John Gregory.
Would he have been more successful than, say Rafa Benitez at Liverpool or Wenger at Arsenal? Maybe, maybe not. But, while I can imagine an argument for why he would do worse, I have yet to hear a cogent argument for why he would definitely have done better. (I'm all ears, BTW. Though, of course, I accept that it's mere conjecture, we'll probably never know).
One more thing. Lansley's article mentions suggestions that O'Neill is under pressure because Lerner, Villa's owner, is unwilling to make further large investments in the club. If that's the case, it's more than understandable. You spend big, you get the players you want and then you work on making them play well together as a team.
O'Neill has succeeded in doing so with Young and Milner, now it's up to him to make it work with the others. But now comes the real test of whether he really is a special manager or just another "good" manager who succeeds when he's awash with money. Now we'll find out what he can do. Provided, of course, the unconfirmed rumours are wholly false and he does decide to stick around, even with a switched off tap.

Hva synes folket her da? Er Martin O`Neill oppskrytt, eller er han en av de beste managerne i Storbritannia?

Personlig er jeg mye mer begeistret for David Moyes i Everton. Er også litt begeistret for Alex McLeish i Birmingham, men han har ikke vært igjennom den vanskelige 2. sesongen enda.

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« Svar #663 på: 03. April 2010, 14:29 »

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« Svar #665 på: 03. April 2010, 14:47 »
Faen så åpenbart det var! Første tanken som slo meg da jeg leste overskrifta - Claus Lundekvam.
...i det selvutnevnte Nordens Paris, som er en like virkelighetsfjern sammenlikning som å kalle Skedsmokorset Nordens Milano.

http://www.last.fm/user/arhaida

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« Svar #666 på: 03. April 2010, 14:50 »
Ikke så vanskelig å tenke seg tilø at dette er Lundekvam, nei.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/7983922.Saints_legend_in_drugs_arrest/

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« Svar #667 på: 03. April 2010, 15:02 »
At politiet kom hjem til ham og fant dette, tyder jo på at han må ha store problemer for tiden.
Jævlig synd

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« Svar #668 på: 04. April 2010, 11:44 »
Trodde han hadde barn og var en familiemann jeg........

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« Svar #669 på: 04. April 2010, 12:30 »
Chris Kamara:


 ;D

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« Svar #670 på: 04. April 2010, 13:26 »
Er rimelig spent på neste års sessong. Det jeg vet er at jeg iallefall skal på den første hjemmekampen etter opprykket, samt en til jul, og en til sommeren

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« Svar #671 på: 04. April 2010, 15:25 »
Er rimelig spent på neste års sessong. Det jeg vet er at jeg iallefall skal på den første hjemmekampen etter opprykket, samt en til jul, og en til sommeren

Nesten det som er planen min også, første hjemmekamp neste sesong har jeg store planer om å dra på, og en eller to kamper til, og da er først og fremst hjemme mot Sunderland og Manutd som blir prioritert om det passer.

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« Svar #672 på: 04. April 2010, 20:33 »
Han er så tøff han! Den gjengen der må ha verdens tøffeste fotballsendinger.
...i det selvutnevnte Nordens Paris, som er en like virkelighetsfjern sammenlikning som å kalle Skedsmokorset Nordens Milano.

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« Svar #673 på: 04. April 2010, 21:00 »
Er noe annet enn TV2 sporten, og Wathne, Hoff, Mini og Olsen :D
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« Svar #674 på: 04. April 2010, 22:12 »