En kjent fjes dukker opp!

[Kristoffer]

Vår alles kjære venn Graeme Souness kommer, i mine øyne, med noen særdeles kloke ord rundt situasjonen i Newcastle. Han slakter enkelte faktorer rundt klubben, at klubben aldri gir noen tid nok, samt at han kommer med harde skyts mot mannen han sa bestemte hvem som skulle kjøpes under hans tid som manager - nemlig Fat Fred.
Interessant å lese at Souness ikke var ute etter Luque, men etter Boa Morte og Anelka....


Former Newcastle United manager Graeme Souness believes that Alan Shearer would only be given six months longer than any other manager if things started going wrong at St James' Park.

The Scot has spoken frankly about the situation at St James' Park and accused 'professional agitators' on Tyneside of making life difficult for anybody in charge of the club.

Souness spoke to Harry Redknapp before the Portsmouth chief made public his intention to reject the approach from The Magpies and it is clear the ex-Liverpool midfielder would have handed out some strong opinions.

"I've managed bigger clubs than Newcastle United but, without a shadow of a doubt, it was the most difficult job I ever had," Souness told Sky Sports.
 

"The biggest problem I had was the chairman at the time [Freddy Shepherd]. I think he typified what's out there at this moment in time, where they're in it for five minutes and, all of a sudden, they think they understand football and want to be making too many football decisions.

"Harry or whoever goes in now, it's whether Mike Ashley really has got the appetite for the long haul. What's needed at Newcastle is not a quick fix.

"Galatasaray, Glasgow Rangers, Liverpool and Benfica are all bigger clubs than Newcastle but the politics and people who are professional agitators on the outside of the club, ex-employees of the club and journalists, seem to take great pleasure in causing the club a problem.

"The Geordie people are fantastic, open and in your face. If they're not happy with something, they'll tell you. They deserve far better than they've got but there's a percentage of that suppport who allow themselves to be wound up the minute something is not going right.

"It's like more of the same until someone goes in there for the long term and gives the manager time and support to the hilt financially, and genuine support. I certainly didn't get that from Freddy Shepherd. He's not someone you want to be in the trenches with, not just in my view.

"I think Newcastle could be a fabulous club but it's not a quick fix. What I said to Harry was, at the end of the day, if you talk to me, Kenny Dalglish, Ruud Gullit, Bobby Robson, there will be something in you telling you to take it or something in you telling you not to take it.

"It's hard to be critical of Harry, it's his life and he has a fantastic situation at Portsmouth.

"I'd go back with a different chairman, it's a big club and has one of the potential to be one of the best but it's not a quick fix. Whoever goes in there needs a minimum of three to four years."

Souness responded to criticism of his spending by saying Albert Luque was not his choice because he wanted Nicolas Anelka.

"I would argue my first choice was Anelka and Luis Boa Morte," he stated. "I was told when I spoke to people in Turkey that Anelka could be bought but then told he was not for sale.

"Instead of £12 million there, Luque came in for £10 million and Michael Owen for £16 million. Luque was not my decision. I was told he would cost £2 million.

"Shearer would be very popular but he'd be the first to tell you he's not quite ready.

"If he could go in with an experienced head, he could have a chance but Shearer will only be given six months longer than anybody else when it starts to turn and doesn't work.

"Kevin Keegan and Shearer would be a popular choice but I think they could do with someone not living in Newcastle. It needs someone from the outside, not to be involved in the day-to-day showbiz as it's never ending at Newcastle, it's a quite unique football club.

"My only advice would be whoever comes in, give them a chance."

[Kesse]

Enhver manager som har jobbet  under FS har vel sine historier om hvordan det var. Jeg hadde faktisk litt sansen for selve personen Souness, og mener at han ble gjort til en litt større syndebukk enn han faktisk var, mye pga Fat Fred.

Men ja, Anelka og Boa Morte ville vært MYE bedre enn Owen og Luque. Men det er lett å være etterpåklok.

[Kesse]

Synes forresten denne var litt morsom, hentet fra N-O forumet:

i worked front desk at a ritz-carlton in the states 2 years ago-

Mind you, this interaction with him was AFTER he was sacked..

he came in with his family. lovely family, wife was class and he was, not going to lie, one of hte nicest people i;d ever met while working therte.

He asked me If i watched the world cup at all, told him I watch the sport more than anyone I know over here and he laughed, asked who I supported, club wise.  I told him to guess, he smiled and said "MAN United" and I laughed and so No - and then I told him, "Mr Souness, I know who you are- my uncle used to travel to Liverpool to watch you play." So then he said, Liverpool? I said No....NEWCASTLE United.  Kid you not, the man was smiling, lost his smile, and his head sunk.  Looked down, almost embarresed, as he knew I knew who he was and what he did to the club.  He then said, You know, the Chairman wasn't a football chairman, he was a businessman.  He got involved too much, and made too many rash decisions.  Said Mickey was a fantastic player, but was hurt.  Said Shearer was a great man as well, but closer to ending his career.  Said you lot were the greatest supporters, but things didn't work out right for him.  But he continued to mouth off about Shepherd for a good 3-4 minutes.  Basically saying the same stuff.

I sensed he was throwing excuses at me...but hey, at least I know my sudden encounter with GS was priceless, I right told him i was a Newcastle Supporter and he looked as embarressed as hell.

[Kristoffer]

Personen Graeme Souness har alltid tiltalt meg fordi han alltid har vært bånn ærlig og en rett frem person. Uansett, han hadde gode poenger også rundt dagens situasjon.

[kung_zlatan]

Vær svært forsiktig med å farge Souness med røsenrøde farger. Han har stort sett ødelagt klubbene han har kommet til med en defensiv spillestil uten nevneverdig plan. MIsforstå meg rett, jeg synes Sam er en mye bedre manager men på spillestilsiden minner de umiddelbart litt på hverandre. Luque-historien tror jeg ikke på i det hele tatt. SElvfølgelig var Souness involvert i et 10 mill kjøp av en spiller.

[Kristoffer]

Alle er vel klar over hva Souness er god for, og mer hva han ikke er god for.
Men det er vel slettes ikke bare han av gamle Newcastle-managere som kritiserer Fat Fred. Det gjorde jo forgjengeren hans også til gangs. Og jeg syns jo uansett Souness har noen gode poenger her.

[lgrinde]

Uansett, det viktigaste poenget her og som ALLE managerane i England seie er:

"it's a big club and has one of the potential to be one of the best but it's not a quick fix. Whoever goes in there needs a minimum of three to four years. My only advice would be whoever comes in, give them a chance."

[BallaJazz]

Souness har noen meget gode points her og mye sant i det han sier..FS var jo en katastrofe av rang men Souness er å bli en klovn delux.

[Joakim]

Registrerer at Fat Fred har svart veldig kort på beskyldningene fra Souness. Det sies også at FF skal gi ut en bok senere i år, om tiden som styreformann i Newcastle. Kan bli interessant sengelektyre. Uansett, Shepherd svarte enkelt og greit: "He would say that, wouldn't he?".
Fin kommentar fra Helan. Er det noe jeg savner, så er det de kjappe, lite gjennomtenkte kommentarene fra brødhuet Shepherd. Hva med en tråd hvor vi samler våre "favourite qoutes" fra Fat Freddie Shepherd?

Det er, som dere ser, Daily Mail som videreformidler Helans budskap, med et flott bilde av Helan og Halvan (FF og sønnen hans).
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/sport/football.html?in_article_id=508281&in_page_id=1779&ct=5

[KingKev]

Interessante betraktninger fra Souness. Husker godt den sommeren der, i 2005 hvor vi gjennom hele overgangsvinduet var sterkt linket til både Anelka og Boa Morte, for så å plutselig hente Owen og Luque for kjempesvære summer rett før vinduet stengte. Har igrunn hele tiden hatt litt mistanke til at spesielt Owen-handelen var litt "Fat Fred sitt verk".

[Roblee]

Mye interessant Herr.Roeder kommer med her. Vi ser alle at ting går rett til helvete når styret skal blande seg alt for mye inn i det sportslige. Det samme har jo også skjedd med Rosenborg, når styret ikke holder seg utenfor det sportlige.

Det er klart at Newcastle trenger en manager som ikke er redd for å stå på sitt, og si ifra hvis han mener styret blander seg inn for mye.

Det er jo egentlig ganske horribelt at vi brukte så mye penger på en så skaddeforfulgt spiller som Michael Owen.

Å trene Newcastle vil jeg si at er uten tvil den vanskeligste jobben i hele Premier leauge.
Men jeg tror faktisk at hvis den neste manager klarer å lykkes med Newcastle, så vil det være en av de største prestasjonene i Premier League over lengere tid.

[Kristoffer]

MO var aldri så skadeforfulgt iløpet av tiden før Newcastle må sies. Samt at jeg tror nok Souness ville ha han, da jeg selv husker han i et intervju hadde sagt til Sheperd at han ønsket Owen allerede i januar det året. MEN, Anelka var vel fortsatt førstevalget, og jeg antar at Fat Fred helst ville ha Owen pga rykte og nasjonalitet over godeste Anelka.
Boa Morte vs Luque er der vel liten tvil. Souness la jo aldri skjul iløpet av den sommeren på hvor mye han ville ha godeste Luis.