Mike Ashley

[Anders]

Ja, nå er det jo søndag, så man burde kanskje ta det meste med en klype salt..
Men hvis det du sier stemmer Erlend, så ville det jo ha vært totalt latterlig.
For hvis det stemmer at gjelda nå er Mike Ashleys, bør vi vel ha full kontroll på den. Tviler på at han drar klubben inn til inkasso

[Erlend Simonsen]

nå er det stille i fjøset!:P nå er det stille i fjøset! stiiiiiiile i fjøøøøøøset! nå er det stille i fjøset

[VepsoO]

Hehe Det er ikke slik at Ashley plutselig ble superhelt. Han har fortsatt mye å lære. Så det blir spennende å følge med fremover

[Joakim]

Vel. Siden du insisterer, Erlend:
- Hvorfor har det tatt så forbanna lang tid å innse alvoret? Vi måtte altså et godt stykke under streken, med tre poeng opp til sikker plass, før Ashley gadd å gjøre noe med situasjonen.
- Hvorfor fikk ikke Shearer dette tilbudet tidligere i denne langpausen? Hvorfor fikk ikke Shearer tilbudet etter WBA-kampen?
- Hva skjer med Dennis Wises posisjon? Hvordan kommer ledelsesstrukturen til å se ut i fremtiden?
- Hvorfor har vi hatt fire managere (tre forskjellige) på én sesong?
- Hva nå med Joe Kinnear?
- Hvorfor den ekstreme troen på Chris Hughton?

Det er så mange spørsmål man kan stille Mike Ashley, som jeg tror han vil få problemer med å svare på. Og det er viktige spørsmål.
Hva vil skje neste sesong, om Kinnear ikke kan fortsette og Alan Shearer ikke vil fortsette?
Hvorfor har alle kontraktsforhandlinger blitt utsatt? Hvorfor tviholdt man ikke på Shay Given, og gjorde han sur og tverr i stedet for å selge han til en sterk konkurrent? Hvorfor snakker pressen om at vi skal erstatte Given med Artur Boruc? Kan noen snarest fortelle meg at dette er sprøyt og oppspinn fra en søndagsavis?

Ja, jeg kan jo holde på slik i evigheter. Det viktigste spørsmålet er uansett det første. Hvorfor tok det så lang tid før alarmklokkene ringte hos Mike Ashley? Hvorfor fikk Shearer telefon først "over helga" som han selv sier?

[Kristoffer]

La oss håpe det ikke er for sent.
På høy tid at Ashley fjerna seg med den største floppen av de alle - Dennis Wise og DoF-systemet. I ettertid kan en bare si at det var gjennomført sjokkerende at Wise ble valuert som viktigere enn Kevin Keegan, som mange har sagt hele veien. Dennis Wise er en svær kødd, og jeg siterer fritt fra The Chronicle i dag:

After KK left the club, Wise’s role continued as normal – but it seemed Joe Kinnear was encountering similar problems.

Kinnear wanted Peter Lovenkrands to aid the Mags’ relegation battle. Wise did not.

That was an example of the slowly-receding power levels of Wise as United’s management system failed to do what it said on the tin.

I stood outside St James’s Park some months after Keegan’s departure and watched as a fan told Wise what he thought of the situation.

Wise’s laughing-cavalier response to the young Geordie, just yards away from where KK explained to fans why he had sold Andy Cole in 1995, summed up why the ex-Chelsea man was never the right fit for a people’s club like Newcastle United.

[André S]

nå er det stille i fjøset!:P nå er det stille i fjøset! stiiiiiiile i fjøøøøøøset! nå er det stille i fjøset

Ehh, javel? Så hvis man gjør en bra ting som man burde gjort for lenge siden så er han plutselig helt? Selv om vi fikk inn Shearer nå, så tror jeg det er mange managere der ute som hadde vært et bedre valg på lang sikt, om vi kunne fått inn dem på et tidligere tidspunkt. For eksempel tror jeg vi hadde vært bedre stilt på å ha hatt Keegan som manager framdeles, enn vi kommer til å bli med Shearer framover.

[Joakim]

Det sier seg selv at denne modellen feiler når Dennis Wise er DoF.
Dennis Wise er tydeligvis en like egoistisk drittsekk nå, som i sin spillerkarriere.
Med andre ord, det var på høy tid at vi fikk han ut.

Hvis vi får inn en diplomat i DoF-rollen, så tror jeg selv Alan Shearer vil føle seg komfortabel med å jobbe i en slik modell.
Alt kommer an på personen som tiltrer stillingen, og hva som er stillingsinstruksen.

[Frode]

Min mening er at det ikke er DoF modellen det er noe galt med, men personene som ble satt inn i systemet som feilet. Fra topp til bunn var dette helt feil. Wise er tydeligvis en som IKKE kan besitte en slik rolle! Det er jo DoF`en sin jobb å hente inn managere nå andre gir seg og som er ansvarlig for det sportslige (er det ikke?), Wise klarte ikke å hente inn en manager ved noen av de 2 anledningene han hadde, og sportslig er jo dette så dårlig som man kan få det. At han har hentet noen gode spillere og talenter for en billig penge er det eneste han kan få pluss i boka for, resten av hans arbeidsoppgaver har han enten latt være å løse eller gjort en så altfor dårlig jobb.

Kevin Keegan er heller ikke mannen til å jobbe under en slik stilling. Uansett hvem som hadde blitt satt til å være DoF så hadde nok dette endt opp i uenighet med KK. Man setter ikke en som har en så høy stjerne i klubben under en DoF uansett, dessuten vil jeg påstå a KK er for "sær" (om jeg kan kalle han det) til i det hele tatt samarbeide med noen "likestilte" over en lengre periode.

Så har vi resten av styret som bare sitter passivt å ser på og drar konflikten så langt det er mulig å dra den før de prøver å rette det opp igjen. De reagerte så altfor sent. Skulle heller ikke forundre meg om de er like tause til verandre som de er til fansen og media.

Til slutt vil jeg si at det så klart er fult mulig å få ting til å fungere med en DoF, det har noen av de beste lagene i Europa bevist i lange tider.

[Joakim]

Det er selvfølgelig ikke umulig å få det til. Heller ikke i England. Men du trenger mennesker med visse diplomatiske evner i rollene.
Mike Ashley feilet noe så katastrofalt med det ved første anledning, da han ansatte Dennis Wise og Kevin Keegan, som begge er veldig prinsippfaste menn.

Men for all del, jeg tror det kunne vært mulig å få det til å fungere med Keegan, om man hadde han en mindre profilert personlighet som DoF.
Hovedproblemet var i mine øyne Dennis Wise, og ingen andre.
Men Kevin Keegan gjorde det selvsagt ikke enklere.

[Asbjørn]

nå er det stille i fjøset!:P nå er det stille i fjøset! stiiiiiiile i fjøøøøøøset! nå er det stille i fjøset

Stille i fjøset for at en hjerteoperert JK prøver å fortelle Fat Mike hva som er på vei til å skje med klubben om de ikke gjør noen grep snarest?

[Erlend Simonsen]

hahah, jeg ville bare provosere har ikke tenkt å diskutere imot dere

men det er artig å se reaksjonene deres

[Asbjørn]

Sir Bobby taler igjen, og som vanlig er det meste av det han sier rett.

 

The irony is that whereas most owners are arrogant enough to come into football and think they know it all, Ashley has been naive. He has acknowledged his lack of experience in the game and given his employees a free rein.

Wise, his cohort Tony Jimenez and Kinnear were all out of their depth and that is why the club are in such a mess and relying on an unlikely result at Liverpool today to keep their Premier League survival hopes alive.

I remember asking Ashley soon after the club signed Kevin Nolan in January what homework had been done on the player?

I wanted to know how many times he had been scouted and what reports had been done of him. Ashley shrugged, he genuinely didn't know the answer.

I told him I'd be more careful about spending his next £4.5 million! Who would have thought such a successful businessman would be so trusting.

My guess is that a lot of the recent signings at Newcastle have not been checked out properly. Wise thought Xisco was a good idea. So Ashley paid £5.7m for a striker who has gone on to score one goal all season.

I don't know who recommended Fabricio Colloccini, but Ashley put his hand in his pocket for another £10m. Colloccini would have struggled to get into Newcastle's reserves a few years ago.

When things started to get desperate in January, it seems the club started to listen a little less to Wise, and more to Kinnear.

But the result was the same - more of the wrong type of player. Nolan lacks mobility in an important area of the pitch, just what Newcastle didn't need!

Peter Lovenkrands was also signed. OK, he didn't cost any money, but that doesn't matter because he simply isn't good enough at Premier League level.

One of the few good players left, Charles N'Zogbia, went to Wigan. Newcastle got Ryan Taylor in return. I know for a fact Wigan were delighted with the deal - they never rated Ryan as a Premier League-class player.

None of these things were Ashley's fault, beyond the fact that he put the wrong people in the wrong positions and wrongly believed they knew what they were doing.

The penny may have dropped now. Certainly the appointment of Alan Shearer was the right thing to do, albeit arguably too late.
Alan Shearer

WORTHY: Alan Shearer is the right man for Newcastle job

And, of course, I wish Kinnear all the best in his recuperation after an operation because nobody likes to hear of a fellow football man being unwell.

Anyone mocking Alan for not turning things around yet doesn't understand what he's inherited. The only saving grace is that among the problems there are enough match-winners, Oba Martins, Mark Viduka, Damien Duff, Michael Owen, to try to keep the team up this season.

But there has to be a massive turnaround in the summer if Newcastle are going to improve long term. The squad is unbalanced, it is short of legs and pace and it is no fluke they are in the bottom three.

I hope Alan has the desire to see this job through, because I believe he has Ashley's confidence. In my view, Alan is the first person really worthy of the Newcastle hot-seat since I left in 2004.

What he lacks in experience, he makes up for in knowledge about the club and, more importantly, his knowledge of the game in general and his ability to communicate that knowledge and make positive decisions.

I have watched in disbelief and near horror at some of the things that have gone on at Newcastle in the past year.

[Kristoffer]

Mike Ashley er jo en vits da - men selv om jeg frykta at vi skulle gå langt til helvette denne sesongen, så jeg ikke for meg at hans avgjørelser skulle være så forbanna amatørmessige som de har vist seg å være.

[Frode]

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Don't blame Mike Ashley for Newcastle's decline
Last updated at 11:17 AM on 03rd May 2009
Comments (0) Add to My Stories I never thought I'd feel sorry for Mike Ashley, but I do. He put his faith in the wrong men - and they have let him down badly.

There can be no apology for some of Ashley's decisions. He picked out-of-touch managers Kevin Keegan and Joe Kinnear, and his decision to appoint Dennis Wise as executive director of football was a complete disaster.

But I have sympathy with him because, unlike a lot of big-time owners, Ashley did not stick his nose in and interfere. All he did was bring in who he thought were football people and trusted them to do the right thing. It is their fault, not his, that they wasted millions of pounds on bad players.
The irony is that whereas most owners are arrogant enough to come into football and think they know it all, Ashley has been naive. He has acknowledged his lack of experience in the game and given his employees a free rein.

Wise, his cohort Tony Jimenez and Kinnear were all out of their depth and that is why the club are in such a mess and relying on an unlikely result at Liverpool today to keep their Premier League survival hopes alive.

I remember asking Ashley soon after the club signed Kevin Nolan in January what homework had been done on the player?

I wanted to know how many times he had been scouted and what reports had been done of him. Ashley shrugged, he genuinely didn't know the answer.

I told him I'd be more careful about spending his next £4.5 million! Who would have thought such a successful businessman would be so trusting.

My guess is that a lot of the recent signings at Newcastle have not been checked out properly. Wise thought Xisco was a good idea. So Ashley paid £5.7m for a striker who has gone on to score one goal all season.

I don't know who recommended Fabricio Colloccini, but Ashley put his hand in his pocket for another £10m.Colloccini would have struggled to get into Newcastle's reserves a few years ago.

When things started to get desperate in January, it seems the club started to listen a little less to Wise, and more to Kinnear.

But the result was the same - more of the wrong type of player. Nolan lacks mobility in an important area of the pitch, just what Newcastle didn't need!

Peter Lovenkrands was also signed. OK, he didn't cost any money, but that doesn't matter because he simply isn't good enough at Premier League level.

One of the few good players left, Charles N'Zogbia, went to Wigan. Newcastle got Ryan Taylor in return. I know for a fact Wigan were delighted with the deal - they never rated Ryan as a Premier League-class player.

None of these things were Ashley's fault, beyond the fact that he put the wrong people in the wrong positions and wrongly believed they knew what they were doing.

The penny may have dropped now. Certainly the appointment of Alan Shearer was the right thing to do, albeit arguably too late.

 WORTHY: Alan Shearer is the right man for Newcastle job
And, of course, I wish Kinnear all the best in his recuperation after an operation because nobody likes to hear of a fellow football man being unwell.

Anyone mocking Alan for not turning things around yet doesn't understand what he's inherited. The only saving grace is that among the problems there are enough match-winners, Oba Martins, Mark Viduka, Damien Duff, Michael Owen, to try to keep the team up this season.

But there has to be a massive turnaround in the summer if Newcastle are going to improve long term. The squad is unbalanced, it is short of legs and pace and it is no fluke they are in the bottom three.

I hope Alan has the desire to see this job through, because I believe he has Ashley's confidence. In my view, Alan is the first person really worthy of the Newcastle hot-seat since I left in 2004.

What he lacks in experience, he makes up for in knowledge about the club and, more importantly, his knowledge of the game in general and his ability to communicate that knowledge and make positive decisions.

I have watched in disbelief and near horror at some of the things that have gone on at Newcastle in the past year.

I feel sorry for Ashley - I just don't think he understood what the game was all about. He has done the right thing in giving Alan a chance and I can only hope it's not too late. I wish Alan every success at Anfield. My heart and head are with him.

[Kristoffer]

På samme måte som Fat Fred hadde hovedansvaret i sin tid, har Ashley det her også.