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« Svar #180 på: 18. Des. 2005, 12:31 »
Utrolig viktig seier for å ikke miste all mulig kontakt med Champions League-plassen! Fikk ikke sett kampen, men noen som kan finne noen klipp av høydepunktene? Var visstnok en underholdende kamp. Med seier borte mot Liverpool andre juledag, hvilket vil bli svært vanskelig, begynner dette å se lysere ut :P
Men irriterer meg grenseløst at Luque ikke får spille! Hva galt har han gjort som gjør at han ikke får bevise hvor god han er? Han kostet jo klubben 120.000.000 kr! Ustabile Ameobi burde blitt holdt på benken. Luque er jo ikke så værst på vingen, og må få spilletid snart!

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« Svar #181 på: 18. Des. 2005, 12:33 »
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Utrolig viktig seier for å ikke miste all mulig kontakt med Champions League-plassen! Fikk ikke sett kampen, men noen som kan finne noen klipp av høydepunktene? Var visstnok en underholdende kamp. Med seier borte mot Liverpool andre juledag, hvilket vil bli svært vanskelig, begynner dette å se lysere ut :P
Men irriterer meg grenseløst at Luque ikke får spille! Hva galt har han gjort som gjør at han ikke får bevise hvor god han er? Han kostet jo klubben 120.000.000 kr! Ustabile Ameobi burde blitt holdt på benken. Luque er jo ikke så værst på vingen, og må få spilletid snart!


Tipper han får mer enn nok spilletid i det harde juleprogrammet. Tipper Ameobi får en ny sjanse borte mot LFC, og at Luque starter hjemme mot Charlton to dager senere.
"Ler og godtar meg over dei er inne som er forbanna på Ashley og Co. No gidde eg ikkje innpå denne tråden meir og lese om alle som meinar Ashley er verdens mest gnitne person, kor KATASTROFE denne sommaren har vore, kor REVVA klubben verte styrt."

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« Svar #182 på: 18. Des. 2005, 12:40 »
Ja, Ameobi får sikkert starte igjen borte mot 'Pool. Og gjør han en bra match (som han enkelte ganger faktisk kan gjøre :P), får han sikkert vingplassen på permanent basis..

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« Svar #183 på: 18. Des. 2005, 13:30 »
Her er karakterene til Newcastle-Online.

Shay Given- 7

Given made one or two good saves and couldn't be faulted for any of West Ham's goals. His distribution was also quite good in this match as was his handling from corners, crosses and other set-pieces. Overall another consistent display from the Ireland man, then. I do have one criticism however and it's mainly a general criticism of his game and not his actual performance in this match - he needs to force that back-four upfield when we sit too deep because that is what invites the pressure on and only serves to increase his workload. Have a word with them Shay.

 Peter Ramage - 7

 
Ramage had a steady game at right-back, getting up and down the flank throughout. He was caught out once or twice by Etherington but in the main, he defended well, especially (and not surprisingly) in more central positions. When one of either Bramble or Boumsong went up field or followed an attacker, he filled in at the centre of defence with aplomb. It's obviously his natural position. His distribution was poor throughout though and this is a major area of his game he will have to improve on.

 Jean-Alain Boumsong - 9

 
For me, this was Boumsong's best performance of the season, coming on the back of a fine game Vs Arsenal last week. He was a rock and made countless telling interceptions either with his head, foot or just by putting his body in the way and his distribution was often well thought out too. He was quite calm even when under pressure and this is the Boumsong of last season. Commanding, strong, unfazed and reading the danger well. In the air, he was much better, heading the ball away with distance and clearance. I don't think he put a foot wrong all game.

 Titus Bramble - 6

 
Bramble actually defended well, certainly well enough to pick up a 7 or an 8 with many vital interceptions and good moments of defensive discipline. But his distribution was shocking throughout, playing numerous long-balls into no-man's land when a simple 5-yard pass would have done. We all know he has the capability to play an accurate long-ball but there is a time and a place for that, not every bleeding touch. I won't lay any blame at his feet for the own goal, he did the right thing and had Solano not been in his direct vision, the ball would have cleared the penalty box. Overall, a decent game but someone needs to tell him he is not a playmaker. Stick to defending Bramble. Leave the passing to the midfielders.

 Robbie Elliott - 5

 
The chink in an otherwise solid defence. If marks were awarded for commitment, work-rate and durability, wor Elliott would pick up a 10 each week. But football demands more than that and the left-back just doesn't have the pace, engine or ability on the ball to be as effective as we need him to be, or need from that position on the park. He was turned time and time again most of their attacks came from that side. In an attacking sense he was virtually nonexistent which made Ameobi's job all the more difficult. That said, he's a squad player nearing the end of his career and any performance at this level is manful of him so beggars can't be choosers really. And as ever, he never shirked, hid or dropped that head of his.

 Nobby Solano - 6

 
Once again, Nobby played a narrow game in the first-half and this is a waste of his talent as he just isn't effective at all inside, he needs to be out on the flank, linking up with the full-back and runners, not stuck in a traffic jam. In the first-half his passing was wayward, he was caught out of position a number of times and you can see he just isn't happy in that role. Noticeably after the break he was on the wing and he was much happier, far more involved and much more effective. Also claimed an assist to his name, setting up Owen's second. We'll not talk about that OG...

 Scott Parker - 9

 
Parker just carried on from where he left off against Arsenal really, dominating that midfield and patrolling the park like a man possessed. With Sven in the stands hopefully his performance will have made the Swede take notice. If not I for one don't know what Parker has to do. He was immense in this game. Crunching tackles, delightful little passages of link up play, a lion in midfield. What a signing he has been. Unfortunately, a downside of his all-action game is yellow cards and in this match he picked up his 5th of the season, meaning he misses our trip to Anfield.

 Amdy Faye - 7

 
Another canny game from Faye, although not as good as his two previous games, but still a vast improvement from the Faye that started the season. He did a good job in midfield, helping Parker out and covering the full-back positions. He also tried to get forward as often as he could, even having a long-range (but way off target) shot and it was the Senegalese man who set up Owen for his hat-trick with a sublime through ball. The game did seem to pass him by at times and he gave the ball away cheaply more than once or twice but overall, a fine game. Well played Amdy lad.

 Shola Ameobi - 5

 
Excellent against Arsenal out wide on the left, frustrating against West Ham, despite some good moments in the game. At times he was very effective when coming infield as he linked up well with the central midfielders but up front he wasn't involved much while in defence he gave away a penalty (not intentional handball) and for parts of the match, went missing. Yet to be fair, he is playing in an unnatural position and in Elliott he doesn't exactly have the best foil to work with down that flank. He did a job asked of him and worked hard for the team and that I guess, is all we can ask of him at the moment.

 Alan Shearer - 8

 
Like Parker Shearer followed on from his Arsenal performance and while he wasn't quite as involved in this match as he was in that one, he contributed an awful lot nonetheless, at both ends. Took his goal expertly, set up Owen and cleared a goal bound effort off the line, just one of many vital defensive interceptions. He also sent in one or two mean crosses that I bet he would have loved to have been on the end of and he conserved his energy well, often playing in midfield alongside Parker. Just 2 to go now Al...

 Michael Owen - 10 (My Man Of The Match)

 
Anyone who was at this match or who watched the highlights on TV could be forgiving for thinking that all Owen did was score three goals, which he did. But off the ball, his movement and positioning, his awareness, timing and speed of thought is absolutely magnificent to witness. He could have had 5 goals in this game simply because of his movement and it's frightening, and mouthwatering, to think just how many goals he would score in a free-flowing, fluid footballing Newcastle side. The service at times was shocking and he had to fight and toil with much bigger defenders which is kind of sad to see in a way because we are under using him, as crazy as that will read. But on the other hand, thank god we have him. He, as Big Al says, was the difference and his hat-trick will be the first of many, I'm sure. Brilliant finishing.

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 Lee Bowyer - 4

Came on for Solano with 10 minutes to go and got stuck in from the start and even set up Owen with a great cross that Carroll did well to save from the England man's header.

 Boss Man
 Graeme Souness - 7

 
Souness kept faith with the side that beat Arsenal and we won so in many ways, another fine weekend for the Scot. However, once again we start the game with no width and playing deep as a unit which just invited pressure and saw United concede lots of possession to West Ham. And it left Owen looking forlorn once or twice as he pleaded with his midfielders to push up, with the England man often left isolated. It's these tactics that are undermining Newcastle and it's infuriating because it happens in every game and every defeat we have suffered this season has often been the result of playing narrow in midfield and pushed back deep in defence. Push upfield a further 30-yards and give Nobby licence to hug that touchline Graeme and we will pick up more points. It's your job on the line, why be so cautious and negative? Nonetheless, 3 much needed points so well done Souey.

 Referee
 Phil Dowd - 8

 
One of the better officials and the Staffordshire ref had a good game, letting it flow where and when called for and not too whistle happy. He did give West Ham a penalty but it was a penalty, despite no real intent by Ameobi. No major decisions to call other than that and it's good to see a referee use common sense and officiate intelligently.
"Ler og godtar meg over dei er inne som er forbanna på Ashley og Co. No gidde eg ikkje innpå denne tråden meir og lese om alle som meinar Ashley er verdens mest gnitne person, kor KATASTROFE denne sommaren har vore, kor REVVA klubben verte styrt."

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« Svar #184 på: 18. Des. 2005, 13:57 »
Bowyer 4?? Den skulle jeg likt å hatt en forklaring på
aurent Robert: "We finished last season so badly that, towards the end, I just laughed at him. "

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« Svar #185 på: 18. Des. 2005, 14:29 »
De liker ikke Bowyer på den siden der!

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« Svar #186 på: 18. Des. 2005, 14:38 »
tipper amøba får sjansen mot looserpool ja, faen han e dårlig!
Who else...... Alan Shearer

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« Svar #187 på: 18. Des. 2005, 14:41 »
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Syns de er ganske høyt satt. Syns West Ham hadde det spillende overtaket, og flere gode muligheter enn oss. Vi hadde en ball som gikk på mål utenom målene. Greitt det var lett mål de fikk. Men hadde det ikke vært for Given og Shearer kunne fort kampen endt 5-4.
Given hadde to meget gode redninger. Shearer reddet på strek og de hadde et skudd i stolpen. Hadde de hatt lik utelling som oss så skulle statistikken tilsagt at de skulle vunnet.

Syns vi er veldig heldige som vant i går, og hadde det ikke vært for Owen er jeg nokså sikkert på at vi hadde tapt.

For kampen i går viser det som alle kampene i år har vist. Fotballen vi spiller er tragisk å se på. Vil påstå at den eneste kampen det har vært gildt å se på Newcastle i år var kampen mot A'nal.
Det glimter kanskje rundt målene, men lite ellers(alle hugser vel 1 omgang mot Blacknurn). Vi som så kampen så litt av Fulham- Blackburn kampen først. Der var det mye finere fotball med flyt i pasningsspillet og struktur i laget.

Hos oss er pasningsspillet elendig, vil da spesielt trekke frem spillere som Ameobi, Faye, Elliot, Bramble og til dels Ramage som har alt for mange feilpasninger. Det må vi bli mye flinkere på. Midtbanen syns jeg fungerte veldig dårlig i går. Parker jobber og gjør en god kamp. Men den godeste Faye forstår jeg meg ikke på. Han oppsøker ikke ballen og trekker ofte bort fra farlige situasjoner og åpner opp for motstanderen. Lurer på om denne mannen har fotballforståelse i det hele. Hadde målgivende i går og sprang litt rundt men det er vel strengt tatt det gode han gjorde. Ellers så forsvant han inn i mørket.

Å at Souness foretrekker Ameobi på vingen er for meg et stort spørsmål. Makan til elendig vingspill har jeg ikke sett på lenge. Sier bare en ting; stakars elliot. Og det var nok derfor Souness valgte Ameobi fordi han trodde Ameobi ville hjelpe mer bak. Men den gang ei. Han gjorde bare ting værre med sin nærvær. Feilpasninger, straffe og mange undøvendige frispark. Men har Souness slengt 100 millioner i dass ved kjøpet av Luque, for det er jo vidt kjent at Souness ikke liker offensive vinger og heller vil ha en ving som sikrer deffansivt? Tragisk taktikk spør du meg!

Dette newcastle laget trenger en struktur og taktikk og det å bruke spillerne rett. Så hadde vi kanskje overbevist på banen og ikke på resultatet. For tror ikke det er så mange som vil si at vi vant fortjent 4-2 i går?
Jeg vil nesten si at seieren mot A'nal var mer fortjent enn seieren i går. For mot A'nal så kjempet vi. Men i går var det lite kjemping, det var Owen.

Av meg så syns jeg disse spillerne fortjener godkjent i går
Shearer, Owen, Parker, Solano, Ramage og Given.
Sa vel noe av det samme, at de virket høyt satt der. Poenget var ganske enkelt 2'ern. Ser også nå at ingen etter mitt innlegg har gitt ham 2. Tilfeldigheter eller bare mer fornuftig karaktersetting pga viss påvirkning vites ikke.
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« Svar #188 på: 18. Des. 2005, 14:44 »
Hva var linken til den siden det ble lagt ut klipp og mål ganske rett etter kampen?
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« Svar #190 på: 18. Des. 2005, 16:23 »
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Viktig med spisser som scorer mål :D

På grunn av jobb har jeg ikke fått sett denne kampen og forrige kamp mot Arsenal :evil:  (newcastle vinner når jeg jobber)

Men ut fra det jeg har lest og hørt fra andre så har nok engang Ameobi og Bramble vist seg fra sin værste side.. For noen klovner!!

Hvordan var egentlig handsen til Ameobi?? Ser for meg noe lignende som Jenas gjorde borte mot Arsenal for noen år siden.

Men men, er mest fornøyd med 3 deilige poeng i dag (5bak CL) Satser på at Chelsea tar Arsenal i morra og at Boro knuser spurs..


Da må du begynne å jobbe oftere:P
homas- NUFC og FC LYN OSLO for alltid

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« Svar #191 på: 18. Des. 2005, 22:58 »
Faen for en kamp dette må ha vert, rakk å se at det ble 1-0 og deretter 1-1 før jeg måtte stikke ut. Ba om oppdatertinger underveis men fikk ingen, må nok skifte kilde. Men ble desto mer gledelig overrasket da jeg fikk vite at vi vant 4-2 borte, og tilogmed i London. Gleder meg til å laste ned og se målene, surt å ha fri og fortsatt ikke få sett kampen, men sånn er det noen ganger... Men det for holde for nå, for nå er målene ferdig nedlastet, I'll be back ;)